Computers and The Internet

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If web photosites, work for you--great! But I would like to say that it is possible to have *thousands* of pics on a webpage and organize it so it loads quickly.
1) Divide your pictures into categories (furniture, settings, different projects, etc.)
2) Create a thumbnails page for each category (you may need two or three pages for this, but thumbnails load quickly). You can get freeware or shareware thumbnail programs from zdnet or cnet that are pre-tested to be virus-free.
3) On your index page, create a link for each category that leads to the thumbnails page for that category.
Browsers do not load an entire site at a time; they load page by page. Any decent HTML editor (including Front Page Express and Composer, which come free with your IE or Netscape browser) will give you an estimated 'load time' for each page you build.

Molly


Free sites for photo albums: Tripod.com has an easy to use photo album / site builder.
Trellix, as it's called, is their free web-based editor. If you're skittish about learning new software, rest easy. This one almost drives itself. You get 50 megs of storage (that's LOTS of pics). If you need more room, they will hook you up with an affiliate that can boost your storage considerably. (also for free, I think)
Geocities.com also has free space for pics. Not quite as much room though, and their editor- PageBuilder is not quite as intuitive. Nice tool though - we use it.
Come see what we've done with PageBuilder.
http://www.geocities.com/roundwood2/

Brian


Free sites for photo albums: I just have been looking at webshots site Webshots.
It took me less than 30 minutes to read instructions sign up and email pictures, and have them posted right away. I also printed the page so I would not forget the information until I learned it completely.

Anita Crawford


http://www.homestead.com/ has a web site builder that is easy to use. You might want to give it a try.

Nertha


PhotoPoint alternative. For anyone with some free web space wanting an alternative to PhotoPoint there is a wide variety of software available for creating your own web based photo album. One program I like is AutoGraphics HTML available here:
http://www.fcodersoft.com/products/autograph.htm
This will take a folder of pictures and generate a page of thumbnails each linking to another page with the full size picture. You can add titles and descriptions for each picture and it comes with 32 templates which can easily be changed to suit yourself if you have some basic knowledge of HTML. Price is $29.00 including free upgrades. There are many other similar products available.

Colin Bird


My unscientific results : photohosting sites

After playing with 3 different photohosting sites, I'd like to let you know what I have found out from my experiences and feedback from other people.

First of all, these are photohosting sites - they are not the same as a website you build. These are intended as a place to store photos for others to see, with a minimum of text and other information. To do the same thing on a website you build would be time consuming and the site would bog down if you had 400+ photos, as I do. Homestead and other web building sites will let you do lots of other tricks, but a photohosting site will let you put lots of pictures on quickly and maneuver among them easily.

*ZING:
PRO: FREE. (But for how long?) Pictures are large and sharp. You can choose optional backgrounds for your pictures. Great and easy uploading of pictures - I liked this one the best of the three for uploading. Easy to use. Nice sample picture listed with album title. Album viewer allows you to scroll from one picture to the next all the way through the album. No limit of how many pictures can be placed in an album. You can add a link to a related album for people to view. You can choose how many of columns of pictures to display on the thumbnail page. Space for guestbook entries under each picture. Community directory lets you share pictures of topical interest (Miniatures is one category you can choose). You can select an option where people can't use your pictures on Zing products or to buy prints.
CON: No discussion forums. Hit counters cannot be reset. Some people have trouble signing guestbook. High incidence of browser crashes - (related to what type of internet browser you are using?) Some people said the site was slow while others thought it was fast - must depend on your computer speed and browser. To see thumbnails, you have to go to "View" and select "index" (and then you have to click "show all to get all of them.) Plenty of advertising, but more subtle on this site.
*WEBSHOTS:
PRO: FREE (But for how long?) Good picture quality and nice large size in default setting. Easy to select larger or smaller size view. All thumbnails automatically come up when you view album. Nice sample picture shown with album title. Place for picture title and description under picture. Easy to navigate. Uploading just OK. You can rate photos you look at. You can click on a slideshow mode and all pictures in the album will automatically scroll through. (*This is really a neat feature!! ) Relatively few browser problems reported. Easy method to add guestbook entries. You can add links to your other favorite users. Tons of pictures available for download to your screensaver. Links to jokes and other misc. stuff (not sure this is really a plus, however!)
CON: Anyone can use your pictures. I didn't find an option that would keep people from taking your pictures and ordering prints. They even have a counter that tells you how many times your pictures have been downloaded. Only 36 pictures max allowed in an album. The "community" gallery page has a hobby section, but nothing specifically for miniatures. Uploading is slow, you can only do one at a time though a clickable link, or you have to email them. Lots of advertising. Can't reset hit counters. Guestbooks may be hard for non members to access.
Conclusions:
All three have good and bad features. Photopoint is the best known and most people know how to use it. They are trying to correct some of the mistakes they made with their upgrade a month or so ago. The $9.95 fee they are offering to current members is reasonable, but who knows what it will be next year. This site offers more features than the other two, but you may not want all of them. Zing has the best uploading process. However, they are the site that is most likely to crash on some browsers. They allow special backgrounds for your pictures, but the site takes a little time to learn. Webshots is clear and easy to use and has a cool slide show. However, they have the least qualms about selling your pictures to others.
My Decision:
OK, it's a not a decision. I am keeping all three for the time being to see what happens to the sites. I don't mind the fee if Photopoint uses the money to offset less advertising on the site. We'll see...I will pay for one year at least. I suspect the other sites will follow suit eventually and start charging also. Besides, my mini roombox album has over 21,000 hits and is listed as an "editor's pick." Guess I owe them a little loyalty. I love some of the features of the other sites, too, and hope that they mature into even better sites eventually. Next year when it comes time to pay Photopoint again, I may decide to drop it and go with one of the others. In the meantime, I will add all three links so people can view the albums on the site they prefer to use.

Bonnie Gibson


Free web photo album sites: I know of a couple of free web photo albums:
"Studio Ave" hosted by the people who make Paint Shop Pro:
http://www.jasc.com/studioave/index.asp?

And "Picture Trail"
http://www.picturetrail.com/

Anne Gerdes


Free web photo album sites:
Yahoo! Photos - http://www.yahoo.com
click under Photos.
Webshots - http://community.webshots.com/scripts/controlPanel.fcgi

free photo hosting sites: http://www.andromeda.com/people/ddyer/photo/albums.html

The above link is to a site that compares most of the online photohosting services. (It doesn't include web building sites, just photo hosts such as photopoint.)

Webshots: I have opened a new photo album in WEBSHOTS with a Christmas Scene. I like the ability to use larger pictures. Click on NORMAL to get the best sizing.


SEARCH at Large Web Sites: Since my web site was launched last year, one of the criticisms I receive by E-mail is that it is so big, with many, many categories, therefore it is difficult for them to find something they are looking for easily. Well, yes...the site is big with over 1300 items and over 900 photos (just at Pannikins alone).  I usually post this message back, but decided to post on SS because perhaps many of you do not know about the SEARCH feature....not just at my web site but at so many others also.  It is really very easy to find what you are looking for in less than a minute. Here is how the SEARCH feature works at my site http://www.pannikins.com, and I am sure it works just about the same at other large sites also: You click to the catalog pages (where the Shopping Cart system is). There you will see a clickable box that says SEARCH phrase.  Now let's just say you need a HAM for your country kitchen setting.  In the Search box, you type in HAM. The system will do a speedy search and will list any hams in the catalog.  On that list you will see Country Ham and all you need to do is "click" on the entry, and the picture and description will come up.  (The search feature is so sensitive that on that HAM list, you may find HAMentaschen,  cHAMpagne, etc.) I hope this information helps...when you go to a large site, look for that Search feature.....none of us likes to get stuck at web sites for a long time, and still not find what we were looking for in the first place.

Mary Eccher


Modern Bathroom Fixtures & Kitchen appliances: There is a Canadian company (even better eh? Canadian dollars!) that makes just what you wanted. Brooke uses their work. It's called Model Builders Supply. Their address is 40 Engelhard Dr., Unit 11, Aurora, Ontario L4G 6X6 They have modern bathrooms (check out Brooke's Luxurious bath) and kitchen pieces. At a great price. Phone is: (905)841-8392 fax is (905) 841 - 8399. I've used their modern bathroom pieces with my wicker and just lately have done some wicker microwave stands using their microwave kit on them. They also have some ¼ scale items. I'm sure Noella could fill you in more on them. She's the one who introduced me to them.

http://www.modelbuilderssupply.com/

Debi in Quesnel


Lycopodium: I have seen lycopodium in the catalog for Hobby Builder's Supply. They may have it on their web site at http://www.miniatures.com

Linda in GA


Copyrighted Images: When I put any pictures on the web I expect to have them copied just because it is done all the time. It isn't legal, but it is done. Speeding isn't legal, but it is done all the time too. Since I put everything up expecting it to be copied, I make the image hard to use if someone does copy it. Even without any copyright symbol, or statement, all images are copyrighted to the maker of the original. Also, IDEAS can't be copyrighted, the words and the text you type to explain the idea is copyrighted to the writer, but, the ideas themselves have no protection from any one using the idea for whatever purpose they want to, even to profit from it, under copyright law. I think ideas and processes have to be patented.

I use a couple of different methods to make my pictures hard to use. If they are too hard, or it takes too long for a "skilled retoucher" to use them, they just forget it. It is a lot easier than trying to prove someone stole my picture and then sueing them. One method is to rotate the image slightly. Or to select an area inside the image and rotate it slightly. Especially if you blur the edges of the chosen area, retouching it is almost impossible. Another way is to use text as a chosen area, and choose an antialias type of setting to use as the text borders. Then adjust the areas inside this  chosen area to be lighter than the rest of the picture. Or change the color slightly. This too, will produce a blur or a funny colored area, almost impossible to fix but will leave the detail of the picture good enough to see if you are using it to sell an item. Think of pictures on the Internet as being made up of dots much bigger than the dots from a printer. Say you have a picture of your dog that is 72 dots wide. On most monitors this picture shows at about an inch. If you print it, most printers need 300 dots to make up an inch so since it only has 72 dots to use it can only make a picture about one-forth the size as what you see on the screen.

Here is where you can go to get a full (legal) working copy of the program someone mentioned: Paint Shop Pro. It will work for only thirty days, then it won't work anymore and you have to buy one but all the work you do with it in those thirty days won't be lost. http://www.jasc.com

Harriet Palatkow


To Put Mini's On The Web. Try scanning them. And no I don't mean the pictures, I mean the mini. It doesn't work for everything, but you can get incredible detail. I used this for my 1/4" scale minis and my dresses: It almost works too well. It takes some ingenuity with some 3-D items, but if anyone wants to know the tricks I use, just email me.

Laura Miller


Mary Engelbreit (ME) Sites:

http://www.giftsinc.com/mary_engelbreit.htm

http://www.mbol.com/me.htm

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pointe/2049/engelbreit.html

Maria in MD


To Put Mini's On The Web. Try scanning them. And no I don't mean the pictures, I mean the mini. It doesn't work for everything, but you can get incredible detail. I used this for my 1/4" scale minis and my dresses: It almost works too well. It takes some ingenuity with some 3-D items, but if anyone wants to know the tricks I use, just email me.

Laura Miller


Transparencies: There are two types of transparencies. Well, three, actually, but I'll get to that. There is one made for laser printers and another for ink jets. My darlin' 'liberated' a single sheet of laser transparency from his office for me, but we have an ink jet (most folks do, at home, as l. printers are VERY $$$) and the ink *never* dried. A week later, it was still wet enough that when I tacked the paper on the bulletin board to get it off the desk the ink sagged down the page.
The transparencies made for ink jet printers will dry, just as regular paper will. If you handle it too fast, the ink will smudge, but only for a half an hour or so - just like a letter. There is also stuff made for copy machines. It works quite well, but it has a slight grey cast to it, so you have to be careful where you use it. Some one suggested using clear address labels - I've never tried that, but it sounds good, if you can get it lined up properly. I think that I'd try the shipping labels, which are six to a page.

Dani Rice


Shop signs: I have two suggestions for shop signs.
1. Use your computer. Most have many fonts to choose from and will make them in a small size to start. If you happen to have Excel it has an option to print out the page smaller than its standard setting, i.e. on the print preview - settings adjust print to 50% smaller than normal.
2. Use dry transfer lettering. This comes in a few different colors, sizes, and styles. You will find it at most hobby and art shops. We have a train store that carries these. This application works best on a smooth solid
surface.

Preble McDaniel


Shop signs: Why not use the tool at hand to make your sign? I do them on the computer all the time. You have your pick of fonts and size etc. Print them out on cardstock(which comes in many colors) and spray with a fixative like Patrica Nimmock's Matte or Gloss finish. Cut to size and mount on wood. You can even put a border around it and other designs on it if you have a greeting card program or something of that sort.

Casey


Signs: You could print it on transparency, cut it out, then cut another piece of transparency the same size to put over the top, then use tiny gold nails to hang your sign.

Carole Pierce


Shop Signs: What I did for my shop sign was print out the wording on a clear label on my color printer along with a picture. I then stuck the label on the sign and then sealed it. You can also stencil the letterings. I know Joann's carries "mini" lettering stencils.

Marsha


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